“It is usually in the risk taking that you develop skills to make things work in the first place,” says photographer Joey L.

In the third episode of SUMMER RAYNE OAKES Conversations, I had the pleasure of speaking with Joey about what it means to put your passions first and why it makes sense to take risks in life.

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Ed: Bryonie Wise